...onda je i 156 kompakt s gepekom... :smile18:
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...onda je i 156 kompakt s gepekom... :smile18:
Zar nije? :smile15: <br><hr><font face="Times New Roman" color="blue">I'm bad, I'm nationwide</font>
...a kaj je onda 147??? :smile18:
Kompakt... :) <br><hr><font face="Times New Roman" color="blue">I'm bad, I'm nationwide</font>
Je Aero. Samo pravi Opelista je mogel prepoznat retrovizor na fotki. :smile16: ;)
...sigurno Octavia dobiva na prostranosti gepeka u usporedbi s ostalima... :smile18:
zamolio big ovoga sa nickom VTR da ne gnoji vise na forumu protiv opela.odnosno uopce da se javlja.! :smile09:
vozio sam novu astru i ako je ona tijesna onda stvarno ne znam.jedino je motor bio preslab u toj astri.cdti sa 80 ks.ostalo :smile20:
...naravno da je tijesna kad je VTR Domagoj Kodžić!
...trista kila žive vage... :smile06:
...NHF... :smile18:
baš sam cito u automobilizmu usporedni test astre i stila 1.4 i sve u svemu znajuči da je to tendecijalno pro njemačka novina, mogu zaključit da je astra blago rečeno podbacila jer pobjeđuje s uskih 89:85 stila, s time da takoreč pobjeđuje jedino zbog novosti modela jer pobjedu polučuje prije svega zbog bolje serijske opreme,izgleda, završne obrade i cijene, ostalo je više manje isto s time da u pitanju prostranosti stilo u debeloj prednosti.
zanimljivost: mjerili su snagu Stila i zamislite deklarirano 95KS pri 5800o/min a razvija realno 102 KS pri 5800o/min- talijani me u tom pogledu uvjek pozitivno iznenade!:smile20:,a kod astre 93KS prema deklariranih 90. ispada na kraju da je astra samo lijepo upakirani dobri :smile19: stari opel :(
Ništa posebno... :( <br><hr>
...samo Opel
He, he, kad se već slikaju šlepani VW-i, Rosso, ja imam u mobu 2 slike sa 2 nove Astre na kamionima HAK-a. Jedna slikana u Novom V. a druga u Rijeci. Ovaj passat i golf šta si ti slikao su već amjo reć "stari" auti s pitaj boga koliko kilometara, ali ove 2 nove Astre su me začudile. Praktički iz autosalona su otišle na HAK-ov kamion. Bit će da je to još uvijek dobri stari Opel iz 90-ih.
A sad kad sam se već Opela uhvatio; na Vectri GTS V6 211ks staroj mjesec dana otišao prvo servo volana, a kasnije i letva. Rezultat: mjesec dana auto bio u servisu.
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test je potpuno nerealan..molim vas..pa kako mogu svi japanci biti na kraju, pa zna se ko radi danas najbolje aute na svijetu..ja vjerujem da su astra i golf odlični,ali mislim da pogotovo astra po kvaliteti ne može parirati japancima
što se tiče talijana,mislm da nisu toliko loši koliko se misli..stilo je pravi kompakt,a 147 da se ne govori
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ma autobild je smece.. par zar oni misle da su ljudi tolike ×××××× pa da padaju na njihove fore?
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glas razuma :smile25: <br><hr>
Vidim da su slike pale na plodno tlo. Tak i treba. :smile06: :smile06: :smile06:
Ne znam zasto toliko guraju Octaviu medju kompakte jer vanjskim dimenzijama to nije ali sto se tice prostora u unutrasnjosti spada skoro u klasu gradskih auta tjjessno! Auto je dobar i ima super cijenu ali da je boji od ovih svih nebih komentirao. To da su Toyota i Honda na dnu sve govori o objektivnosti jer koliko je podbacila pocetna prodaja Golfa nije niti moglo biti drukcije- Goebelsova probaganda= Autobild
Ocito je da se Japanci u Njemackim magazinima uvijek "stavljaju" medu zadnje, i mislim da u tome ima dosta ekonomske propagande Njemaca, Japanski automobili se cesto prozivaju kao skupi, skupi za odrzavanje(?), nekad nadu cak i razlog kao nekvalitetna unutrasnjost ...., razlog te kampanje je sasvim jednostavan: Japanski automobili su veliki konkurenti vw,audiju,bmw,opel,euro koncern ford, za opel znamo da je vec u problemima, znaci Japanci se moraju sprijeciti pod bili koju cijenu da uzmu dio prodajnog kolaca Njemaca, sto je podpuno nefer igra, Japanci su vec kaznjeni vecim porezima i davanjima, znaci hoce da ih uniste i protivjapanskom propagandom.
U slicnu poziciju se stavljaju i Francuski Automobili na GER trzistu.
I to pojedini zovu sloboda trzista. ;) <br><hr><font color="red">HONDA - The Power of Dreams
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Alfa 3.0 V6
kvaliteta na nivou
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usput i neke ispovjesti kupaca :
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E glupko, a na koliko je taj motor bio navijen si zaboravio reći? :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: Koji majmun.
At .8 bar this engine made 450hp
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GOLF 2000G.
GONE WRONG
Easier to list what has not gone wrong, but the list is:
Trip computer reset itself
Water pump
Electric windows
Ignition system (five times)
Steering pulling to one side (all the time)
Poor idling
Cold start sensor
Thermostat
Suspension rattles
Interior trim falling off
Water leaks into footwells
Paint chipping
Rear dampers.
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Volkswagen Golf GLS
You'd be better off taking the bus
Volkswagen Golf GLS
Piece of garbage-avoid!!
Volkswagen Golf GL
Is luxury econobox an oximoron?
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Golf SE Estate
UK and Ireland, 282 words I will never buy another VW after this experience
Golf GTi Turbo
UK and Ireland, 243 words Bitterly disappointing
Golf GLS
North America, 97 words Negative because it is defective, dealer can't fix the problem and VW is unwilling to provide help
Golf Chico
South Africa, 322 words A waste of my hard saved money
Golf GLS
North America, 68 words Do not buy this piece of junk
Golf GTi Anniversary
UK and Ireland, 557 words Overrated car from an overrated company
Golf GL
North America, 225 words Must sell this car before the warranty is up!
GTI 130 TDI
Gearbox replaced under warranty at just 3,500 miles.
Loose trim on B pillar and in boot.
Central locking failed completely.
Water leaking into passenger footwell (was told this caused the central locking problem). From experience, was very sceptical this would be fixed, but to be fair it was, and first time.
PAS rack popped a seal and blew out all the PAS fluid.
Passenger window regulator broke up.
Outer CV joints started knocking (both sides, one 6,000 miles after the other)
Tailgate wiring loom needed replacing.
Three separate oil leaks. Two were fixed satisfactorily, but the third may necessitate a complete replacement engine as the block appears to have a hairline crack in it. I'm told this is not the only one the dealer has seen.
At the time of writing, the car also has a defective CD player, a creaking seat and a lazy passenger electric window, but it is sitting at the dealership while I am driving the seventh courtesy car since I picked up this Golf.
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Golf GTi 1.8T
UK and Ireland, 512 words Overpriced, overrated, unreliable, rubbish
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Problems started within a week of taking delivery. It was difficult to engage first or reverse gears. The dealer took 2 attempts to find that the gear linkage was mis-aligned.
A month later the engine started to misfire. Back to the dealers and the air flow unit was replaced.
Heavy oil consumption – normal said dealer
Another few weeks later one of the windows went down and refused to come back up. The motor was faulty. This was replaced along with the switch.
Then the sunroof switch broke leaving the roof stuck half open.
The brakes started to judder and the front discs and pads were replaced at 3000 miles. Eventually done under warranty after a major row with the service manager at the local dealers.
Everything was fine then for a couple of months and we thought that we had got over the teething problems until the first time the car was left out overnight in a rain storm. We found wet carpets on the passenger side. The door seal was replaced and the door re-fitted.
A week later one of the horns stopped working – another trip to the dealer and an hour wait while they fitted a new one.
Then the engine overheated on the motorway and we had to be towed home. Evidently there is a known problem with the water pump on this model.
Then a Lamda sensor went causing fuel consumption to drop below 20 mpg.
Engine management system packed in. Another tow home.
New EMS developed a stutter when hot. Replaced again.
Brake judder came back at 10000 miles. The dealer said we braked too hard!
We went to another dealer. Discs and pads replaced, but we had to pay for new pads (which were only half worn).
Another electric window switch broke and was replaced.
Another misfire developed. This time a coil pack and we spent three weeks driving a 1.2 Polo courtesy car waiting for new parts. The dealer showed us 5 more 1.8 Turbos also waiting for the same part. Another known design fault.
We had it back a week when another Lamda sensor went. Evidently another known design problem in the USA they have all been replaced under a recall.
Finally the turbo bearings went in a cloud of blue smoke. At this point I gave the car back as I was leaving my company car scheme.
I S U S E
General comments?
This was one of the worst built cars I have ever seen. It looks good at first sight, but reliability was woeful.
It wasn’t much fun to drive, OK on the motorway, but rolled and lurched around corners. Handled more like a Ford Transit than a GTI
A huge disappointment. I would never have another one of these.
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u interceptor ovo je bilo iscrpno :smile12:
U baš dobro da me ovaj tupko podsjetio na ovu stranicu, nevjerovatno jel moguće da je vw toliko smeće, mislim hrpa iskustava su užasno negativna. :smile25: :smile25: :smile25: :smile25: :smile25: :smile25:
i to još nije sve :smile25: :smile25: :smile25: <br><hr><font face="Courier"></font>
hahaha da, na 1.8T motorima rikavaju bobine ko lude, to sam cuo... passati, golfovi... svi pizde zbog toga...
i ovo s prozorom sam isto cuo... nije neki kvar... al ajd ostavi negdje golf s otvorenim prozorom ak si faca! :)
Ne gledaj.
Kad kupiš Golf prvo ti rikne elektronika.
Onda posle getriba
Zatim slijedi alternator,
Pa poslije akumulator.
Poslije toga riknu karike
A zatim otiđe i glava motora.
To sve uz napomenu da ste napravili tek 13000 Km.
Poslije odlaze amortizeri,
Zatim rikava instrument tabla.
Ma da vam ne govorim.
To se sve događalo i s Golf 4.
Ali ljudi glupi ko ×××××× (njih Milijon)
opet je pokupovalo GOLF 5-ice kojima se događa sve to ali još i :
-kad ostaviš prozor otvoren, a nisi zatvorio pepeljaru , više nemožeš upalit mašinu.
-ako mjenjač nisi stavio u rikverc nemožeš okrenuti ključ
- GTI troši 18 litara i nejde ni 190 KM/h
-Gume im se troše nakon 10000 km
-radio s cd-om ne oćitava originale.
I ljudi ih opet kupuju.
A to da su preskupi da i ne govorim.
Za te novce kupiš šta hočeš te klase.
Pretjerano skupo za tu kvalitetu.
A ljudi (koji idioti) ih opet kupuju.
I to ne 1000 ili 10000 , ne , nego milijon ljudi već vozi Nove Petice.
A Alfa, totales dobar auto.
Mašina besprijekorna. Može izdržati 400000 Km bez servisa.
Dizajn nenad××××v
Kvaliteta na nivou S-klase (ma koje s-klase) (maybach)
Cijena bagatela.
E nju (koji idioti) nitko ne kupuje.
Novu 156-icu njih pametnih oko 160000 tisuća.
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"A Alfa, totales dobar auto.
Mašina besprijekorna. Može izdržati 400000 Km bez servisa."
Optimizam ti je na nivou, 400 tisuća bez servisa :smile06: :smile06:
A 4 miliona km ako promijeniš jednaput ulje i filter :smile25:
:URL=http://www.adac.de/Auto_Motorrad/pannen_und_maengel/PannenStatistik2003/UntereMittelklasse/default.asp?ComponentID=79063&SourcePageID=79616%230:Statistika kvarova:/URL: koju ADAC vodi već 50 godina i koja je, naravno, potpuno neobjektivna, jer su Japanci kupili Švabe, a osim toga je i odraz vjekovnog neprijateljstva između njemačkog i romanskih naroda.
...kad kliknem na taj ADAC site gore, iskoči mi pop-up stranica www.vw.de...hm...slučajnost ili....
pa ja bas nisam vidio puno golfova 5ica..
a astra je cini mi se prodavanija...
pa duplo vise je prodavanija !(dobro,dobar dio drzi i model classic).
206 Xsi
Mislim da nisi skužil sprdaćinu !!
ili ?<br><hr><font face="Courier" size="+1" color="blue">R-18</font>
Za golf sam vec rekao moje misljenje, ukratko, u prosjeku dobri automobili, s dobrom prodajnom cijenom polovnjaka(u Europi) i uostalom gospodo malo realnosti, nemozemo negirati toliki broj kupaca diljem svijeta(milijuni), a i u vas u Hrvatskoj je jedan od prodavanijih automobila, ja osobno bih uvijek prije odabrao civica, neki bi 306, megane, 156icu... ali u europi vecina se odlucuje za golfa i to je cinjenica.
A o petici, jos prerano je govoriti, vrijeme ce pokazati.
Rapido-hoces reci Japanci kupili i Amere, ma ajde sta pricas, Japanci su svoj image o kvaliteti napravili zasluzno i bez medija i drugih komercijalnih sredstava, to su gluposti da su Japanci kupili adac, iz godine u godini Njemci zaostaju kvalitetom za Japancima i to su cinjenice i ovdje u Americi i u cijelom svijetu.<br><hr><font color="red">HONDA - The Power of Dreams
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ma tom golfu daj značku od kie i da vidiš kak bi se o njemu pisalo!!!! :o :o
sestrinom dečku na golfu 4 je crko mjenjač, klima i zatim sva elektronika!
s tim da mjenjač kad mjenjaš brzinu ide "klop klop" :o :(
lošeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
verso, i to sto kazes... jos uvijek tu ima dosta elemenata stare slave..
ali i bez obzira na to golf afaik vec neko vrijeme nije najprodavaniji vec astra.. unatoc "losem" proslom desetljecu opela..
dakle stvari se ipak polako mijenjaju unatoc starim slavama...
dedeki koji voze bijele golfove 2 polako odlaze na drugi svijet i VWovska doktrina polako slabi...trajnost starih VWova lagano blijedi pod utjecajem prosjecne kvalitete novih... i to je to...