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Pogledaj cijelu verziju : “In war, truth is the first casualty.” (Aeschylus - 5th B.C)



TRPIMIR
24-10-2005, 06:08
BOOK REVIEW
The First Casualty in War

By Carl Savich

Serbian title: Putovanja u Zemlju Ratova: Dozivljaji jednog Stranca u Yugoslaviji. Original German title: Reisen in das Land der Kriege: Erlebnisse eines Fremden in Jugoslawien. Publisher: Prometej, Novi Sad, 2003. Serbian translation from German by Zlatko Krasni, 347 pages, with maps.

Travels in the Land of War:
Experiences of a Stranger in Yugoslavia by Kurt Kepruner. Austrian-born author Kurt Kepruner lives in Regensburg, Bavaria, Germany. “In war, truth is the first casualty.” The Greek dramatist and playwright Aeschylus noted this in the 5th B.C.

Deception and propaganda are present in every war. Yet there is a deliberate suspension of disbelief with each new war. In every new war, there is an amnesia that sets in. We always forget that the first thing we kill in every war is the truth, thereby, human dignity. We kill our own humanity first. Why is this so? War is unnatural. War is merely mass murder sanctioned by a state or government. It is unnatural for humans to want to kill other humans. How do you overcome this natural human disinclination to engage in mass murder? The way you do it is with lies and propaganda. Whether it is based on Plato’s “noble lie” or Adolf Hitler’s “big lie”, a deception, untruth, or lie is needed to launch any war. This is why the first victim of war is the truth.

(nastavlja se)

Procitaj ovu
24-10-2005, 08:29
"Veličanstveno hrabri srpski narod nepobediv u svim ratovima u kojima oficijalno nije ni učestvovao – već odavno navikao na prednosti sankcija, lepotu šverca i uzbuđenje golog preživljavanja...
...ovaj primalni strah od svega nepoznatog......
...sa Dalekog istoka put naše Pravoslavne Džamahirije...
Mnogi penzioneri koji nikako da nađu smisao života još od onih dana kad su u redu za jestivo ulje stajali od četiri ujutro do osam uveče – danas su živnuli...
...u ovdašnjim paranormalnim magazinima za primenjeno ludilo pročita da je ptičji grip «osveta piramida» ili da je opasan virus «izašao iz CIA laboratorija»
U kolopletu evidentne Svetske Zavere Protiv Srba...
...kad već ne mogu oružjem, jer smo tu najjači... "

TRPIMIR
24-10-2005, 19:34
KAKO SAMO TIPICNO HRVATSKI, OPSTRUIRATI I POKRIVATI ISTINU, STVARI KOJIH SE KAO HRVAT SRAMIM. :(
NE POMAZE TI TO SVEDE, LJUDI NA FORUMU, MOJI VJERNI CITAOCI CE I DALJE DA PRATE I CITAJU MENE, NE TEBE! :smile16: JA OVDJE ZA RAZLIKU OD TEBE IMAM REJTING I REPUTACIJU KAO "ISTINOLJUB", DOK TI IMAS REPUTACIJU KAO "×××××× I GOVNOLJUB", NISI BEZ RAZLOGA OVDJE PROZVAN "VRECOM GOVANA", NE?! :smile16:
NAPRIJED, OPSTRUIRAJ ME, DA VIDIMO KOLIKO CES U TOMU USPJETI! ;)

(nastavak)

Kurt Kepruner is a mechanical engineer by training who was born in Austria and who now lives in Regensburg, Germany. He spent 10 years in Yugoslavia. His wife Jadranka is from Croatia. He witnessed the key events in Yugoslavia as the republics descended into civil war and secession from 1990 to 2000. Kepruner was present at the outbreak of hostilities in Zadar in Croatia as he traveled with his wife. Later he traveled to Bosnia and Kosovo.

Kepruner was struck by the anti-Serbian slant of German and Austrian media reporting. He noticed that Western media coverage was based on a black and white stereotypical or propaganda view of the conflict. From the beginning of the breakup of Yugoslavia, Serbs and Serbia were demonized and satanized in racist terms. This anti-Serbian and anti-Semitic racism had not been seen in Europe since World War II.

(nastavlja se)

Trpimire,
25-10-2005, 04:27
ne brini za "destrukciju", ja je i ne prihvatam kao destrukciju, vec kao potez ocajnika koji se sluzi svim i svacim da zaustavi lavinu koju je sam izazvao.

Ja te citam, a njega samo preskacem, naravno. :) :) :)

Prema tome, samo nastavi.

TRPIMIR
25-10-2005, 07:48
ZAHVALJUJEM! :)

(nastavak)

As an eyewitness to the conflict, Kepruner was able to compare his own personal experiences of the conflict to what the Western media was reporting. He found that there was a blatant, one-sided propaganda war by the Western governments and the Western media. The Serbian Orthodox population and Serbia were blamed and held responsible for everything that happened in Yugoslavia during the breakup of the country.

Kepruner decided to publish his own personal observations and recollections of the breakup of Yugoslavia in 2001. The book is entitled Travels in a Land of War: Experiences of a Stranger in Yugoslavia. The book appeared originally in German and has since been translated into Japanese and Serbian, but remains unavailable in English.

(nastavlja se)

TRPIMIR
25-10-2005, 17:07
(nastavak)

Kepruner sought to explain why Western media reporting was unfair, biased, deceptive, and belligerent. He was perplexed because he found that the media perception or image of the Yugoslav conflict was totally opposite of what he knew to be the reality. The epigraph of the book is a quote from Friedrich Nietzsche from The Gay Science (1882): “What are man’s truths ultimately? Merely his irrefutable errors.” And in war, as Kepruner found out, this is always true.

(nastavlja se)

Opa, opa....
25-10-2005, 19:50
Ovi Trpimirovi novi tekstovi mnogo obecavaju, citacu ih redovno kao i sve ostale!
Good work Trpimire, nastavi! :)

TRPIMIRE
25-10-2005, 22:15
A tko kaze da nisi ××××××?
×××× ti ciganin mater.
Vrlo je malo govana kakvo si ti.
Trpimire bre, idi u ××××× materinu.
I bogu si dosadio ×××××ne jedan.
Mora da te je keva izbacila kroz dupe.

milisav crojebinovic
25-10-2005, 22:18
pre bih rekao da si ti ispao iz materinog supka, tako posran, kakav si!
:smile06: :smile06: :smile06:

TRPIMIR
26-10-2005, 22:51
DJECO,DJECO,OSTAVITE SE SVADJANJA,CITAJTE OVE CLANKE,TEK CE POSTATI ZANIMLJIVO! :)

(nastavak)

Yugoslavia began unraveling and falling apart in 1990. Kepruner was there to witness it. Driving with his wife in Croatia, Kepruner noticed that road blocks had been set. He saw graffiti on Serbian houses in Zadar: “Srbima smrt” (“Death to Serbs”). He also remembers seeing this written on a Serbian house: “Tudjman = Bog” (“Tudjman is God”), referring to Croatian ultra-nationalist President Franjo Tudjman, a former Communist general who morphed into a neo-Ustasha, anti-Semite, neo-Nazi right-wing ultra-nationalist. Tudjman had exploited Croatian nationalism by reviving the Nazi and Ustasha ideology from World War II that envisioned a Croatia that was ethnically cleansed of Serbs. He promised to finish the job that Adolf Hitler and Ante Pavelic began by getting rid of the Krajina Serbs.

(nastavlja se)

Trpimire
26-10-2005, 23:11
Pusi mi ×××××, budalo jedna.

TRPIMIR
27-10-2005, 09:42
(nastavak)

Kepruner saw evidence of this revival of Nazism and the Ustasha ideology in graffiti on Serbian houses in Zadar. He noticed that a large “U” and the letters “NDH” had been written on Serbian houses. “U” stood for “Ustasha” while “NDH” stood for Nezavisna Drzava Hrvatska, Independent State of Croatia, the Nazi proxy state that Adolf Hitler created in the Balkans. Kepruner explained that these symbols “here have the same symbolism as the swastika has with us.” The effect would be similar to someone painting a Nazi swastika on the home of a Jewish survivor of the Holocaust in Israel or someone burning a cross and painting the letters “KKK” on the house of an African-American in the South. This was blatant neo-Nazi, neo-fascist racism, a revival of Nazism and Adolf Hitler’s and Ante Pavelic’s legacy in the Balkans. This was explosive and dramatic. But he noticed that none of this was being reported in the US or Western media.

(nastavlja se)

Ma idi
27-10-2005, 12:56
u ××××× materinu Trpimire.Srbi su bombardirali Zadar svakodnevno i ti usporedjujes sebe sa zidovom? Jedina je pogreska bila bre Trpimire, Sto nisu vas svih pokokali umjesto da pisu parole. ××××× ti materina, ja mozem pisati sto hocu u svojoj kuci a ti ako ne volis idi u ××××× materinu VOLE jedan.

mamlaze
27-10-2005, 13:36
citaj, ne lupetaj bez veze. :))

za Trpimira
27-10-2005, 13:42
Trpis i dalje, kao sto vidim, TRPIMIRE!

Naslov ove teme koritis jednostrano i zbog toga sve sto pises postaje tek propaganda.

When does a lie become an accepted truth? When the lie is repeated often enough.

It’s the oldest trick in the book, a favorite ploy of politicians and others who stand to gain validity...No..?!

Vrati se na prve tri strane teme ZASTO NAS U STVARI HAAG GONI - ZLOCINI U "OLUJI" !!!! i pogledaj kako si totalno raskrinkan i kako nemas nikakvih validnih argumenata za svoje tvrdnuje a jos manje logike za zakljucke koje izvlacis.


HAJDE JOS JEDNOM OD POCETKA.

CINJENICE:

1. Voljeli ste Jugoslaviju i isli ste branit njen opstanak oruzjem i nasiljem.

2. To zlodjelo je bilo planirano i pokusano opravdano pricama o prijasnjim ratovima, gdje ste okretanjem kaputa pri kraju izgubljenog rata, vec po drugi puta u povjesti, sebe proglasili za pobjednike, dok ste u stvari te ratove sami poceli i onda dobili po prknu. Po vasoj logici i ITALIJA je onda pobjednik u drugom svjetskom ratu, jer je okrenula kaput prije vas.

3. Sve za sto ste se borili, na kraju ste izgubili.

4. Vasi veliki medunarodni pomagaci i ovaj puta su vam poklonili RS, ali ni to nece dugo trajati jer ste sami za sebe nesposobni ostvariti prosperitet.

Epilog Trpimiru
27-10-2005, 13:43
DAKLE TRPIMIRE, GUBITNIK SI I TI I TVOJI PA MA KOLIKO TI LAGAO, ISKRIVLJIVAO STVARNOST, OTKRIVAO ISTINA, NARICAO ZA VASOM "PRAVDOM", AKO JE CIJELI SVIJET UROCEN PROTIV VAS IZ NEKIH MISTERIOZNIH RAZLOGA, NADRAPALI STE.

POKUPI SVOJE KRPICE I IDI DOMA I NE NARICI VISE OVUDA STO TE SVI BOMBARDIRAJU I MRZE IZ CISTOG MIRA.

Svaka skola se placa a onaj tko je glup mora ponavljati i ponovo placati.

Uz pozdrave "samo tvoj" Grga GN.

Trpimire, ne obaziri
27-10-2005, 13:52
se na ovoga matorog paripa Grgu, vec nastavi sa izlaganjem.

Ne vole te oni koji mrze istinu.
Koliko si cenjen, vidi se po broju ulazaka na tvoju temu - svaka cast!

Grga GN.
27-10-2005, 14:02
Ti koji ( navodno ) ohrabrujes Trpimira
i koristis njegovu logiku ( da mi ti nisi jedan te isti Trpimir..?!), pogledaj glupost koju si napisao.

Ako je Trpimir cjenjen jer govori istinu i to dokazujes brojem logirana na hjegove teme, a Grga GN., po tebi, ne voli istinu...?!...Kako onda objasnjavas da su moja pisanja daleko naj citanija na ovim Forumima.

Jeli to i opet samo jednostrani dokaz?!

SIROCEK, jako si buban kada mislis da mozes svih prevariti uvjek svojim stosovima.

A jesi pravi TRPIMIR.!!!! jado jadni

Nemoj Trpimire
27-10-2005, 14:13
da odes, molim te. Kome bi se smijali, ××××× ti materina, ako odes?
Vidis, Grga je pristojan covjek, ali ja nisam, zato te mozem poslati u ××××× materinu srbocigansko govno, isto kao sve tvoje navijace kao tog ×××××na hehehe-a i Milu-Govnjara i Milu-Kurcoljubimca (kao da vi svi niste te ista osoba). Trpimire ti si hrvat isto kao sto sam ja eskimac, ××××× ti materina srbociganska.
Sorry Grga, ali ovaj Trpimir je dragulj i samo zato ga saljem u drugi dragulj, U ××××× MATERINU.

Jel vidis
27-10-2005, 21:40
Trpimire kako ustasici pizde? Cim popizde, znaci da pricas istinu, jer oni ne vole istinu.
Istina boli, a narocito ustasice.

Samo nastavi.

TRPIMIR
28-10-2005, 00:07
ZNAM JA TO MOJ VJERNI CITAOCE,ZNAM. :)

ZA GRGURA (K)NINSKOG,

"When does a lie become an accepted truth? When the lie is repeated often enough."

- YEAH, I COULDN´T AGRI MORE. TO SVE MOZES PROCITAT U MEMOARIMA TVOJEGA PREDSJEDNIKA TUDJMANA,AKO IKAD BUDU PISANI. TVOJEGA KAZEM,JER NIKAD NIJE BIO PREDSJEDNIK SVIH HRVATA,SAMO ONIH KOJI SU BILI OKO NJEGA I ONI KOJIMA JE MOZAK BIO ISPRAN.

"DAKLE TRPIMIRE, GUBITNIK SI I TI I TVOJI PA MA KOLIKO TI LAGAO, ISKRIVLJIVAO STVARNOST,"

- TOCNO, GUBITNIK SAM DOK SU TAKOVI VECINA U MOJOJ ZEMLJI. ALI SVE TECE,SVE SE MIJENJA, NE?!
"LAGAO ISKRIVLJIVAO STVARNOST",VIDI PRVI ODGOVOR.

"Ako je Trpimir cjenjen jer govori istinu i to dokazujes brojem logirana na hjegove teme, a Grga GN., po tebi, ne voli istinu...?!...Kako onda objasnjavas da su moja pisanja daleko naj citanija na ovim Forumima."

- TOCNO NE VOLIS ISTINU.
"da su moja pisanja daleko naj citanija" -GOVORIMO LI O ISTOME FORUMU? AKO JE TOCNO,KAO STO TI KAZES: "COPI/PASTE".

BOK!

Trpimire
28-10-2005, 13:30
Koja je tvoja zemlja?
Presjednik je glava svih drzavljana u drzavi gdje je izabran.
Nemozes reci: Ja nisam glasao za samostalnost i zato Hrvatska nije samostalna.
Ja nisam glasao za Franju (nisam ni ja) i zato on nije moj presjednik.
Dakle, govno Trpimire, popeo si se na vrh kurca i dragom Bogu, dosadan si kao proliv. Zasto tebe ne uhvati ta pticja gripa, mamlaze jedan?
Vidim po tvojim postovima da zivis u inostranstvu i na temelju toga (ma i tvoje inteligencije) nemas pojma o stvarnim zbivanjima u bivsoj Jugi. Odkad si poceo pisati, nisi izrazio svoje misljenje, vec kopiras neke clanke,koji su svi ama SVI pro srpski. Pa ti nemas niti pojma, zasto je zapoceo rat. Nema smisla tebi tumaciti, jer si glup i jednosmijeran gedjo, jadan Grga kad se upusta sa tobom u diskusiju. Ti si mozda rodjen u Hrvatskoj, ali molim te nemoj govoriti da si hrvat, govno jedno. Svi vi koji zivite u Hrvatskoj, trebate biti hrvati pravoslavne vjere, ali jok bre, vi hocete pisljivu Srbiju od Ljubljane do Tokija. Ima vas u Chicagu vise nego govana, pa ajde recite da je i to srpska zemlja, ne meni vec amerima, pa da vidimo kako ce se igrati bre srpsko kolo,sa onim hlacama sa velikim guzicama.
Ajde govno nauci malo "historije" bre i onda se javi, mamicu ti majmun nabije na ×××××. ×××××ne, zasto pises da si hrvat, ja bi se sramio biti jedan da mislim kao ti, djubre jedno.
Dakle jos jednom: IDI U PIZDU MATERINU, GOVNO JEDNO.
LIJEPA NASA DAMOVINO............nadam se da znas nastavak najbolje pjesme.
Gdije je vasa himna cigani jadni?

Eto ti Grgo
28-10-2005, 13:52
tisuculjetne ×××××tske kulture pa citaj.

Sta, mamlaz prostacki se opet iznervirao???

HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA

Cekaj malo...HEJ
28-10-2005, 14:10
Zar ti koji komentiras "Trpimira" ZAISTA ne znas da je to VSG-(P)???

Pa tu NEMA nikog drugog osim njega...(sa tkzv. srpske strane)...
I nas nekolicine koji ga nabijamo sa svih strana...magarcima, kolcima, majmunima, batinama, govnima...itd...

Od njega vise skoro NISTA ostalo nije...

Ali nam i dalje uporno pokazuje KOLIKO grozno je zacahuren u to destruktivno, ludo mazohisticko srpstvo...i kako NIKAKO - iako bi OCITO htio - ne moze izaci iz te cahure... mi mu pomazemo, ali... bez uspjeha...

Ipak - izgleda TOTALNO - beznadezan slucaj...

SAMO
28-10-2005, 14:15
×××××n do ×××××na.
A swto je za ocekivati od srbocigana?

VGSe, VGSe, majmune
28-10-2005, 14:18
Opet VGS i opet se posrao u svoj arodjena usta! :)) :)) :smile06: :)) :))

Citajte ovo .......

"Zar ti koji komentiras "Trpimira" ZAISTA ne znas da je to VSG-(P)???

Pa tu NEMA nikog drugog osim njega...(sa tkzv. srpske strane)...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :smile06:

Obraca se jednome koji komentira Trpimira, koji je ocigledno Srbin, sa recima da ovde nema niko drugi od Srba nego jedan drugi kojega on, kao bije, itd, itd, bla, bla, bla ..... necu ni da pitam cime ..... :smile06:

××××te VGSe sto si ti ×××××× .... ajoj, jadna ti je ta kukavica majka, sto kamen ne rodi. :))

Probaj da pojacas dozu PLIVE, kazu da pomaze, tebi se sve smutilo u toj tikvi. :smile06: :))

Nema
28-10-2005, 16:25
spasa za tebe, srpska budalo.
Otiso si ti u ×××××, vec odavna.

TRPIMIR
29-10-2005, 02:27
IDEMO DALJE NECU SE RASPRAVLJAT S PROSTACIMA, SAMO CU REC DA ZNAM ONU PJESMU "LIJEPA NASA DOMOVINO", NE "DAMOVINO", TU PJESMU NE ZNAM :))

(nastavak)

He described how he saw houses being systematically blown up around Zadar, “blown in the air”, “kucu dignutu u vazduh”. He witnessed one particular incident himself. The house belonged to a Croatian woman who had been married to a Serb. They had been teachers. Her husband had died several years earlier. A Croatian dressed in black told him how the houses were being destroyed, that you pump the basement of the house with gasoline, and, “boom, it is finished”. He described seeing many destroyed Serbian houses in Zadar. The Serbs had fled, having been ethnically cleansed out of their homes. Ironically, the destroyed Serbian houses were depicted to tourists as examples of “Serbian terror”.

(nastavlja se)

Koliko
01-11-2005, 14:33
Je bilo unisteno hrvatskih kuca oko Zadra?
×××× ti magare kevu, pisi istinu, ××××× ti materina.
Pises, da sam ××××× nepismena ××××××, neka bude po tvojem, jer me ne interesira sto jedna ×××××× ima da rece. Da si imalo inteligentan, poceo bi komentirati na politicke dogadjaje a ne samo prepisivati i lijepiti neke pozutjele clanke i plus tome jednosmjerne u srpsku korist. Po tebi izlazi da su ti pisljivi srbi sveci i da su ih hrvati prvi napali. Ajde govno jedno, pokri se usima i idi u ××××× materinu. Nemoj da budes expert oko dogadjaja oko Zadra, ××××× ti materina, tu ste napravili razgranjicenje izmedju sjeverne i juzne Hrvatske. ××××ti majmun kevu, komentiraj na to, posrani hrvatu ili nemas pojma o tome? To je samo propaganda, jelda govnjaru Trpimire. Kako sam rekao: Mora da te je neki hrvat dobro naguzio, zato te jos uvijek bre boli. Nek ti stoji budalo cetnicka.

TRPIMIR
02-11-2005, 01:35
PRVO DA TE ANALIZIRAM.

ZADNJE JAVLJANJE:

-BROJ RECENICA: 11.

-BROJ RJECI NEPRIMJERNIH CIVILIZIRANOME COVJEKU: 13 :))

"pisi istinu" - PISEM!

"Pises, da sam ××××× nepismena ××××××, neka bude po tvojem, jer me ne interesira sto jedna ×××××× ima da rece." - JESI, JE PO MOJEMU JE. A STO SE JAVLJAS I PISES BEZ VEZE KAD TE NE INTERESIRA?

"plus tome jednosmjerne u srpsku korist" - NIKAKO JEDNOSMJERNE,SVAKAKO ISTINITE.

"cetnicka" - NISAM NI SRBIN NI CETNIK. VECI SAM HRVAT OD TEBE.

NESTO VISE NECU KOMENTIRATI, SAMO JEDAN SAVJET, ODI KOD ONOGA STO TE JE DO SAD DRZAO VEZANOGA I RECI MU DA TE PONOVNO VEZE, JEDINO TAKO MOZES KORISTITI NEKOMU, PONAOSOB NASOJ HRVATSKOJ. :smile17:

TRPIMIR
02-11-2005, 01:36
IDEMO DALJE:

(nastavak)

He noticed a fanatical anti-Serbian and anti-Semitic racism and ethnic hatred spurred on by the Croatian government and media. The German magazine Der Spiegel had noted in 1990 how Tudjman’s HDZ party sought to create a Greater Croatia that would also include large parts of neighboring Bosnia-Hercegovina. Croats spoke of “pure blood” and a “pure race”, “ciste rase”, and “pure Croatian blood”, “cisto krvni Hrvat”. Kepruner described this as a “renaissance” of Ustasha racism. Before the emergence of Tudjman’s anti-Serbian, anti-Semitic, ultra-nationalist racism, the people of Yugoslavia had seen themselves as a single, united people. It did not matter whether one was a Croat, a Serb, or a Muslim. He was told that: “This was just never the question.” But this all changed in 1990.

(nastavlja se)

Nasoj Hrvatskoj?
02-11-2005, 13:24
Joj budalo Trpimire, pa ti si zbilja otiso u ×××××, ×××× ti majmun tu popsranu kevu. ×××××ne jeda, majka ne radja takve glupe hrvate, jedino srpske keve imaju guzicu za to.

sine bre
03-11-2005, 02:38
jaoj kako ti ga cika trpimir smesti, do grla! :)) da imas ista medju tvojim usima (nego nemas kukavac nista) nebi se nikada vise javio na ovaj forum. :))
prosto receno trpimir te POSRAO! :smile06:

hehehehehehe
04-11-2005, 12:36
ne da ga je posrao, nego ga je posrao bre! :)) :smile06: :)) heheheheheheeee! :smile06: :))

sine bre i hehehe
04-11-2005, 13:36
zbilja ste glupi, isto kao "nas" hrvat Trpimir. Majmun vam zaprdio vasim kevama, kao sto je obicavao, kad ste se vi glupi cetnici rodili. Idite bre svi srbocigani u ××××× materinu i Trpimir ce da vam pokaze put, jer on ga pozna vrlo dobro, bre cigani.

sine bre bre
04-11-2005, 15:15
...dobro, kako ti kazes.... :smile06: ....ali to ne umanjuje cinjenicu da te je gospodin trpimir posrao po glavi! :))
Ali... ti si previse glup da bi to shvatio .... da tacno ....zaboravio sam, ti si ipak htvat, nije uopste cudno! :smile06:
ustvari ti nekoga zajebajes, ti .... ne svi tebe, ti zajebajes sve! :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06:
sto kaze kolega, ne da te posrao, nego te bas posrao! :smile06: :)) :smile16:

Jebiga sine bre bre
04-11-2005, 15:44
Sto se prcas ovuda? Nisi dobio dosta po tvojoj glupoj tintari?
Cudni ste vi srbocigani, ×××× vam majmun te posrane keve.
TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
What is a question?
Tko kooga zajebava?
Vas se ne moze zajebavati, jer ste rodjeni zajebani.
And that is a truth.
So, go and ×××× your self little moncky.

sine bre bre
04-11-2005, 15:50
ajde vgs-e ne kaki! :)) :smile06:

TRPIMIR
06-11-2005, 03:47
NISTA LJEPSEGA NEMA NEGO TIPKATI SAM NA FORUMU,GLEDATI KAKO SU VRECU GOVANA IZ SVEDSKE UHITILE LUDE I KAKO JADAN I NESRECAN LIJEPI SPAM PO FORUMU. A, STO SE MOGLO DRUGOGA OCEKIVAT OD JEDNOGA LUDJAKA!? JA GA PRAVIM LUDJAKOM ISTINOM, FORUMSKI SRBI GA PRAVE LUDJAKOM NJIHOVIM NEBESKIM OSJECAJEM ZA HUMOR, A ON JADAN I NESRECAN STO CE URADITI DA SE ODBRANI ...... LIJEPI STVARI KOJE SVATKO DRUGI ZNA,KOJE SU DOSTUPNE BILO KOMU NA INTERNETU,KOLIKI JE LUDJAK VJEROJATNO MISLI DA JE OTKRIO AMERIKU,A NIJE JER JE TO BIO JEDAN DRUGI,MALO JUZNIJE OD NAS.
VRECO GOVANA,NE SRAMOTI JADAN NAS POSTENE HRVATE,ODI SE JAVIT NEKOM LJECNIKU,MOZDA NADJES NEKI ELIKSIR ZA PROBLEM S KOJIM SE SRECES SVAKODNEVNO. :))

(nastavak)

He witnessed how the Croatian government and media were seeking to provoke a conflict. He heard how Croatian soldiers revived Ustasha sayings: “They wanted to see Serbian blood.” The Croat red and white checkerboard symbol was reintroduced in a provocative and flagrant way. While this was an ancient Croatian symbol which the Josip Broz Tito regime retained, the Tudjman regime magnified its symbolic significance by increasing its prominence in the way the Ustasha NDH regime had done. There was an Ustasha renaissance that entailed a purge of everything that was non-Croat.

(nastavlja se)

Postene hrvate?
06-11-2005, 15:05
Pa ti si ozbiljno popizdija Trpimire. Sebe (takvog cetnika) smatras postenim i jos plus hrvatom? Ma idi u pizdu materinu, kako sam reka: I BOGU SI SE POPEO NA ×××××. Ajde ,spusti se iz njega i idi seviti svoju posranu kevu. Mars govno jedno cetnicko u pizdurinu materinu.
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
I nemoj me vise zajebavati, previse se ljutim kad me zoves nepismenjakovicem. Moras znati da sam ja zavrsio visoke skole, jer moj razred je bio na desetom katu i ako to nije visoko, idi se jebati djubre jedno.

jbte koji musav tip
07-11-2005, 03:19
sta je bre ovo bre?!?!

"I nemoj me vise zajebavati, previse se ljutim kad me zoves nepismenjakovicem. Moras znati da sam ja zavrsio visoke skole, jer moj razred je bio na desetom katu i ako to nije visoko, idi se jebati djubre jedno." ?!?!?!?!?!?

neka vrsta humora na hrvatski nacin? :)) ××××te jos gore od "gruntovcana"! :))

ej mamlaze, nemoj nas humorom leba ti, ostavi to za nekoga ko to zna, nemoj bre da se sramotis i pred tvojima i pred nama bre bre. :))

nastavi da lupas uobicajene gluposti, ono o guzici, kurcevima, jebanju, spermi, itd. itd. pokusaj u medjuvremenu da sastavis bar jednu jedinu pravilnu recenicu pa da bar iznenadis ove tvoje vucibatine na forumu, nas nemozes ...... mlogo si bre glup! :)) :smile06: drugim recima "mlogo si bre hrvat", to ti dodje isto! :smile06:

:smile16:

Zar ni
07-11-2005, 19:34
humora nemam? ××××te, zaboravio sam, to je rezervisano za srbocigane. Izvini gedjo bre, ×××× ti tovar kevu, nisam se niti setio da ste vi izbaceni kroz dupe i to sve u humoru, bre bre guzovani.
××××ga, idem u ××××× kad nemam humora. ××××te se srbadijo i ××××te svoje keve, ××××× vam materina.

Kako ce bre
07-11-2005, 22:24
ovi ustasici imati humora kad su laponci po poreklu.
Mozes misliti, laponac vitla nozinom zakrvavljenih ociju, sa penom na ustima kao kod naseg VGS-a.... pa da li bilo ko na ovome svetu ocekuje nekakav humor???

Naravno da ne, jer je humor odlika dobrocudnih i inteligentnih.
To je isto kao da poredis dupe i oko, jbga.

TRPIMIR
08-11-2005, 15:30
NAJBOLJE JE IGNORIRATI TAKOVE LUDJAKE MOJ VJERNI CITAOCE,NAJBOLJE,NISTA SE PAMETNOGA OD TAKOVIH SUPKOVA NEMOZE OCEKIVAT. :))

(nastavak)

The Tudjman regime began with a purge of all non-Croats in state offices. Serbian journalists in the media were fired. Serb teachers were fired. The Croatian media organized a campaign against Serbs and everything Serbian, Yugoslavia, and the JNA. Croatian superiority and racism were promoted. Kepruner was told: “Serbs are inferior to Croats, they have smaller skulls and smaller brains.” Croatia is for Croats only, while Serbs are deemed a minority. Armed Croat interior ministry troops were encouraged to attack Serbs. The Serbian Cyrillic alphabet was outlawed. Serbs were evicted from government housing. Streets were renamed after Nazi/Ustasha leaders such as Mile Budak, a racist ideologue of the NDH regime. The Croat police and military forces began wearing the “U” symbol which had the same symbolism as a Nazi swastika. The police tolerated private acts of ethnic cleansing and terror against “Croatian Serbs” which Kepruner described as a “Dalmatian Kristallnacht”.

(nastavlja se)

Svega
08-11-2005, 20:34
mozes ocekivati od mene budalo Trpimire. Vidim da tvoji clanci postaju sve kraci, sto si zauzet dudlanjem hrvatskih kurcina, pa nemas vremena, bre ××××××vicu?
Jebal ti majmun kevu, i ti kazes da nemam humora? Pa vidis da imam, govnjaru jedan, jedini sam ja da razgovara sa govnom kao sto si ti, majcica ti podudala majmunov ××××× isto kao sto si ti dudao hrvatski, jelda bre4 Trpimire, sto je sledece bre govno jedno? :smile16:

dzukelo bre jedna
09-11-2005, 19:41
ne da nemas humora nego je to katastrofa.

ajde da te malo priucimo papane:

lekcija 1.:

psovati, jebati majku, upotrebljivati prostacke izraze, ne mora da znaci da je humoristicno, dapace to je prosto, i prikazuje mozdani stadijum i veoma los (citaj: nikakav) odgoj roditelja ili staratelja i nikakve veze sa humorom nema.

lekcija 2.:

pisati pravilno je pozeljno, ali izuzetci se mogu praviti u slucajevima kad osoba koja se gadje padezima i pravi mega gramaticke ili bilo kakve druge pravopisne greske, ima osecaj za humor. u tvom slucaju to je katastrofa. verujem da je svako od tvojih hrvata ovde ponosan na tebe! :))

eto samo nekoliko vaznih smernica cisto da ti pomognem da vidis gde si u odnosu na one koji su puni humora.... mozda naucis nesto i mozda uspes da kazes nesto smesno ..... do kraja zivota! bar jednom :smile06: ovo kazem jer sam danas imao jako dobar dan i pun sam optimizma, tako da verujem i u tako izgubljene sjebane slucajeve kao sto si ti. :smile06:

ajd sad, 5 min. je isteklo, fratar te ceka...... :smile06:

dzukelo govno
09-11-2005, 19:56
idi u ××××× materinu, sto gubis vreme samnom?
Pa rekao sam da sam glup i da mi treba pomoc.
Vidim ja da nemozem dobiti pomoc od tebe posrani govnjaru. Ajde uci me humoru jer ti si najbolji u tome. Pusio si hrvatske kurcine i nemozes da se odstranis od njih, jelda bre glupi gedjo? Zato i trosis vreme bre ovdje samo da vidis dali bi ti netko dozvolio da mu pusis lepi ××××× bre govno.
Ajde gedjo samo ti seri i jedi u isto vreme bre, da napunis one guze u svojim hlacama.
Dakle idi u ××××× materinu bre IDIOTA.
:smile16:

BAS SI DZUKAC GLUPI
09-11-2005, 20:02
"Vidim ja da nemozem dobiti pomoc"

"nemozem"?! :))

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHA AAAAAAA! :smile06:

Joj bre majmune, molim te nemoj nikad da nestanes sa foruma, ulepsavas mi dan tvojim nemanjem mozga. samo citam i krstim se ...... skim smo mi to ziveli tolike godine u Yu? sa nepismenim ×××××nima, sa koeficijentom inteligencije za 0,01% vecim nego kod ameba! :smile06: :))
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEE!!! :)) :smile06:

TRPIMIR
13-11-2005, 02:53
(nastavak)

Serbs in Croatia wanted autonomy like Kosovo Albanians had received from Serbia. The Krajina Serbs only wanted what the Kosovo Albanian minority had. Tudjman, however, categorically rejected any Kosovo-style autonomy in September, 1990. None of this was revealed in the Western media. At the minimum, a Kosovo-style autonomy for Krajina could have been granted before recognition which would have prevented a civil war. The war that erupted in Croatia was foreseeable and could easily have been prevented. It was based on lies and deception.

In Bosnia, Kepruner found the same reckless determination to foment war by lies and deceptions. Alija Izetbegovic never concealed the fact that he was a Muslim ultra-nationalist who modeled his regime on the Ayatollah Khomeini regime in Iran. Izetbegovic proclaimed a policy of “mono-culturalism” in his book The Islamic Declaration (1970; republished, 1990).

(nastavlja se)

TRPIMIR
18-11-2005, 02:41
(nastavak)

In Bosnia, Kepruner found the same reckless determination to foment war by lies and deceptions. Alija Izetbegovic never concealed the fact that he was a Muslim ultra-nationalist who modeled his regime on the Ayatollah Khomeini regime in Iran. Izetbegovic proclaimed a policy of “mono-culturalism” in his book The Islamic Declaration (1970; republished, 1990).

Kepruner noticed that in US and Western propaganda, Izetbegovic was portrayed as a “multi-culturalist”, a secular, Muslim leader who followed Kemal Ataturk. This was the Big Lie of US propaganda. On March 17, 1992, the three factions in Bosnia had agreed to the Lisbon Plan which prevented any war and resulted in a peaceful resolution of the Bosnia secession. The US, however, was not content with peace and advised the Bosnian Muslim faction to reject the plan. What followed was a four-way civil war between Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Croats, Bosnian Muslims under Fikret Abdic, and Bosnian Muslims under Alija Izetbegovic. Ruder Finn, a US PR firm based in Washington, DC, manufactured Holocaust propaganda in tandem with the US and Western media. James Harff of Ruder-Finn admitted the propaganda strategy was to associate the Holocaust and “genocide” propaganda to the Bosnian conflict to help the Bosnian Muslim faction. One absurd example of this Western propaganda was the accusation of the Bosnian Muslim faction against the Canadian UN commander in Bosnia, Lewis MacKenzie, who was accused of having raped a Bosnian Muslim girl in a Serbian rape camp. MacKenzie was unpopular because he was neutral and objective in the conflict. Kepruner recounted the propaganda of the Bosnian conflict beginning with the Breadline Massacre, the Markale I, and Markale II Massacres. The Bosnian conflict consisted of atrocity propaganda. The most absurd propaganda hoax was the alleged evidence of Bosnian Serb Nazi concentration camps, which was manufactured by ITN.

(nastavlja se)

Brale Trpimire
18-11-2005, 13:45
Kad ces da mi popusis kurcinu?
Jebal ti majmun kevu.

TRPIMIR
21-11-2005, 16:42
(nastavak)

Kepruner saw that the Bosnia propaganda analogy was being transferred and transposed to the Kosovo conflict. Kepruner found that the long-standing ideology of a Greater Albania was covered-up in the Western media. He noticed that the creation of a Greater Albania that included Kosovo by Adolf Hitler during World War II was covered-up in the West. The Kosovo Albanian policy of ethnically cleansing Kosovo Serbs was also suppressed and covered-up. Kepruner found that this separatist and secessionist conflict to create a racist Greater Albania was covered-up completely in the Western media.

(nastavlja se)

Nas VSG-u(P)
21-11-2005, 17:05
TACKE od 19 do 22

BEZOBZIRNO RAZARANJE,

PLJACKA JAVNE ILI PRIVATNE IMOVINE

VSG-u(P)
21-11-2005, 17:05
42. Od 1. marta 1992, ili priblizno od tog datuma, do 31. decembra 1995, Slobodan MILOSEVIC, delujuci sam ili u sprezi sa drugim ucesnicima udruzenog zlocinackog poduhvata, planirao je, podsticao, naredio, pocinio ili na drugi nacin pomagao i podrzavao planiranje, pripremu ili izvrsenje bezobzirnog razaranja i pljacke javne i privatne imovine bosanskih Muslimana, bosanskih Hrvata i drugog nesrpskog stanovnistva na teritoriji Banje Luke, Bihaca, Bijeljine, Bilece, Bosanske Dubice, Bosanske Gradiske, Bosanske Krupe, Bosanskog Novog, Bosanskog Petrovca, Bosanskog Samca, Bratunca, Brckog, Cajnica, Celinca, Doboja, Donjeg Vakufa, Foce, Gacka, Sarajeva (Hadzica), Sarajeva (Ilidze), Sarajeva (Ilijasa), Kljuca, Kalinovika, Kotor-Varosi, Nevesinja, Sarajeva (Novog grada), Sarajeva (Novog Sarajeva), Sarajeva (Pala), Prijedora, Prnjavora, Rogatice, Rudog, Sanskog Mosta, Sekovica, Sipova, Sokoca, Srebrenice, Teslica, Sarajeva (Trnova), Trebinja, Visegrada, Vlasenice, Sarajeva (Vogosce) i Zvornika. To namerno i bezobzirno razaranje i pljacka nisu bili opravdani vojnom nuzdom, a obuhvatali su:

Da VSG-u(P)
21-11-2005, 17:06
Nas heroj Milosevic:

a) Oduzimanje i pljacku imovine koja pripada bosanskim Muslimanima, bosanskim Hrvatima i drugim nesrpskim civilima, ukljucujuci i iznudjeno potpisivanje dokumenata kojim se oni odricu svojih vlasnickih prava.

b) Namerno i bezobzirno unistavanje kuca i druge imovine u vlasnistvu bosanskih Muslimana, bosanskih Hrvata i drugih nesrpskih civila. To unistavanje korisceno je kao sredstvo da se nesrbi nateraju da izbegnu iz mesta koja su bila njihova zakonska prebivalista i da se spreci njihov kasniji povratak.

c) Namerno i bezobzirno unistavanje verskih i kulturnih objekata zajednice bosanskih Muslimana i bosanskih Hrvata ukljucujuci, izmedju ostalog, dzamije, crkve, biblioteke, skolske ustanove i kulturne centre.

Ovim delima i propustima, Slobodan MILOSEVIC je pocinio:

VGSe bre bre bre
21-11-2005, 17:48
Joj BRE VGSe bre, joj GLUPI MARTINE nas, sto ja bre volim kada te Trpimir ovako nagazi, pa penis li penis, a onda zna se ...... tone materijala koje - NIKO NE CITA! :))

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!

BRE! :smile06:

Bitno je
21-11-2005, 23:38
Da ti citas...tebi je to i namjenjeno...

a sta se tice tvojih ×××××rija...? TO niko ne cita...nego eto tu na ovim tvojim stranicama te je naljepse sevit...

Da da
21-11-2005, 23:51
Trpimir je dokaz koliko se HR zlocini ne citaju.

Koliko ulazaka? 6250 trenutno!!!!

O tome ti mozes samo da sanjas, mamlaze jedan.

Slazem se sa kolegom, tvoje lepljenje budjavih tema je najobicniji rubbish koji niko ne cita.

Uverljiv dokaz da si nacisto popizdeo je sto besomucno lepis gluposti na sve moguce topike. Dok je tako, smatram da uspevamo da ti glavu drzimo u fekalijama.

PLIVA PLIVA PLIVA

kolega bre
22-11-2005, 15:45
"drzimo mu glavu u fekalijama"
Aj lajk det a lot, thanks kolega na tako slikovitoj ekspresn bre! :))

Citam malo ovo sto je Trpimir pisao o ovom Svabi koji je opisao svoje putovanje kroz "looks like a duck" Tudmanliju, zamisli ti kolega, jedan Nemac pa ih ovako popljuva?! Ko bi rekao, ja sam mislio da su svi Svabi isti "danke Dojcland" majmuni, ali pogledaj ovog, pise stvari kako jesu ..... svaka mu cast bre! Ovu knjigu obavezno kupujem!
A hvala i Trpimiru sto nam JOS JEDNOM omogucuje da se naucimo ISTINI ovako "onlajn" bre! :))

Hvala Trpimire, zivio i ti i svi tvoji! Pokazao si da nije sve u Hrvatskoj tako crno i ustaskom ideologijom sjebano. Pokazao si ono u sta su svi sumnjali ........... da u Hrvatskoj jos uvek ima dobrih i postenih ljudi! :) Zivio! :)

koliko pusenja...?
22-11-2005, 16:16
Sta mislis? Najvise bas na ovim stranicama...

to smo te VSG-u(P) rascepurili...

Gdje god odgovaras tu te rzascepurujemo...

Samo citaj i budi cim aktivniji...

tema
22-11-2005, 20:48
rascepio si ti moje sveze dimljeno govno majmune glupi sa mozgom nesto manjim nego li u kokoske nosilje! :))

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O temi:

Slazem se sa naslovom teme. "“In war, truth is the first casualty.”

Jer je ova vest upravo potvrda za to:

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" Broj poginulih u BH ratu 100.000!

22. novembar 2005.
Sarajevo -- Potvr?eni broj poginulih u ratu u BiH od 1992. do 1995. blizˇi je broju od 100.000, nego obicˇno navo?enom od 200.000.
Ovo je prenela norvesˇka novinska agencija, navodec´i procene predsednika Informaciono dokumentacionog centra BiH Mirsada Tokacˇe. On je izjavio da je u oktobru na spisku poginulih bilo 93.000 imena. "Konacˇni broj c´e vjerojatno biti oko 100.000", rekao je Tokacˇa.
Informativno dokumentacioni centar je ustanovljen u aprilu 2004. godine, kako bi istrazˇivao i prikupljao cˇinjenice, dokumente i podatke o genocidu, ratnim zlocˇinima i krsˇenjima ljudskih prava, bez obzira na etnicˇku, politicˇku, versku, drusˇtvenu ili rasnu pripadnost zˇrtava.
Slicˇnu procenu koriste i statisticˇari demografi pri Sudu Ujedinjenih nacija za ratne zlocˇine na podrucˇju bivsˇe Jugoslavije.
"Nasˇe istrazˇivanje sugerisˇe da su oko 70 odsto ubijenih bili Bosˇnjaci, 25 odsto Srbi, a pet odsto Hrvati", rekao je Tokacˇa. On je izjavio da brojka kojom se kalkulisalo prethodnih godina o 250.000 poginulih "nikada nije bila temeljena na istrazˇivanju". "

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Koliko je jos drugog slagano, namesteno i fabrikaovano, da bi se vec postojeci jad jos vise naduvao i predstavio onako kako odgovara jednoj strani?
Mislim da je dosta toga, polako , vecina ce kad-tad izici na svetlost dana.

TRPIMIR
25-11-2005, 01:07
POLAKO SVE CE SE SAZNATI VREMENOM.....NIJE OVO JEDINI SLUCAJ,IMA TOGA JOS,STVARI KOJE CE NA ZALOST SAMO POSTENE LJUDE POSRAMITI, OVE DRUGE.....NJIH NEMOZE POSRAMIT NISTA. :( :smile17: KOLIKO JE BILO TAKOVIH LAZI KOJE SU INOZEMNI MEDIJI UPIJALI I PREMA MOJIM PODATCIMA NEKE I SAMI PRAVILI...POLAKO,SVE CE SE VREMENOM ZNATI,SVE.

-TRPIMIR :)

TRPIMIR
25-11-2005, 01:11
IDEMO DALJE SA BOOK REVIEWOM OVE FANTASTICNE KNJIGE:

(nastavak)

The Albanian goal to create a Greater Albania began on July 2, 1990, when the “Republic of Kosovo” was proclaimed. Like the Krajina and Bosnian Serbs, the Albanians wanted self-rule and autonomy. But the US and Western governments and media had a double standard regarding these conflicts. Bosnian Serb and Krajina Serb attempts to achieve “independence” were rejected by the Western governments and their media, while Albanian “independence” was supported. This hypocrisy and double-standard was best exemplified by the flip-flop on the separatist conflict in Kosovo-Metohija. On February 23, 1998, Robert Gelbard of the US State Department had declared that the KLA was a “terrorist” organization. But seemingly overnight, the KLA “terrorists” morphed into mujahedeen-style “freedom fighters”. How did “terrorists” become “freedom fighters”?

(nastavlja se)

Trpimire
25-11-2005, 01:14
Idi u ××××× materinu. ×××××ne jedan.
:smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16:

TRPIMIR
25-11-2005, 01:58
TVOJ JE TATA ZBILJA TREBAO KORISTITI "UDNU TULJICU",POSTEDIO BI SVJET TAKOVOG TOVARA GLUPOG,PROSTOG I NEPISMENOG. :))

Trpimire
25-11-2005, 02:09
Truth and nothing but the truth.
Da te istina pogodi po toj blesavoj glavi, ti nebi imao pojma sto je to ISTINA.
×××××ne cetnicki.
Magare ti sevilo kevu krajisnicki cigo.
:smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16:

TRPIMIR
29-11-2005, 02:55
(nastavak)

Kepruner saw the objective of US and Western policy towards Yugoslavia was to destroy or defeat Serbia, which was perceived as the sole obstacle to the NATO expansion into the Balkans. This was the real objective of Western policy in the Balkans throughout the 1990s. The US wanted total control and hegemony in the Balkans. And Serbia was the only hindrance to that goal. Kepruner pointed to a statement that Klaus Kinkel, German foreign minister, made in 1992: “Our policy is to bring Serbia to its knees.” To achieve this objective in Kosovo, the US and Germany created the KLA, a proxy terrorist army.

(nastavlja se)

Trpimire
29-11-2005, 03:56
Dali si obrisao "FACU" od silne sperme sto su hrvati pospricali po tvojem licu?
Jadna si ti zivotinja, magare ti spalio kevi, govnjaru jedan.
It`s that the truth? You ××××ing ass. :smile16:

pa ima i svaba ....
29-11-2005, 12:41
....postenih, ima, ima ....

Zamisli Svaba, a govori ovako?
Sto bi rekao Ristovski u Undergroundu: "E, sto ti je nemac"! :))

Trpimire,
29-11-2005, 14:33
slazem se potpuno.

Pogledaj ovaj dupli standard danas:

Ceo zapadni svet se naostrio da Siriji zavede sankcije samo radi ubistva jednog coveka.
U Sudanu ih je ubijeno oko 2.5 miliona, i nikome nista.

TRPIMIR
15-12-2005, 05:17
DOSTA SMO PRICALI O ZLOCINCU GOTOVINI,ON JE TAMO GDJE MU JE MJESTO,IDEMO DALJE SA BOOK REVIEWOM OVE FANTASTICNE KNJIGE:

(nastavak)

The aftermath of the 1999 US- and German-led NATO bombing and occupation of Serbia proved these assumptions. After the NATO occupation of Kosovo in the summer of 1999, 180,000 Kosovo Serbs, Roma, and Jews were registered as refugees in Belgrade by the UN. US and NATO propaganda claimed that 100,000 Kosovo Albanians were killed in a “genocide”. But these were all lies and falsifications. NATO killed more Serbian and Albanian civilians as “collateral damage” than occurred during the “genocide”. In all, 2,000 died on all sides, which included Serbs, Albanians, and Roma. Many of the deaths were related to military combat. Absurdly, the cure was worse than the disease. Kepruner noted that the NATO occupation had made the humanitarian situation worse in Kosovo. Over 200,000 Kosovo Serbs, Roma, and Jews were driven out. Over 150 Serbian Orthodox Churches had been destroyed by Albanian extremists. The remaining Kosovo Serbs lived in Nazi-like ghettos in Kosovo. All the Kosovo Jews fled to Belgrade. There were now no more Jews in Kosovo. The Roma population of Kosovo was also destroyed after the NATO occupation. What NATO achieved was a racially and ethnically pure Albanian Kosovo. NATO achieved what Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler could not.

(nastavlja se)

za Trpimira
18-12-2005, 04:48
Trpimire, malo si zapostavio ovu temu i onu o Jasenovcu. :(
Molimo te nastavi, sve teme su podjednako interesantne.

Pozdrav, vereni citalac :)

TRPIMIR
18-12-2005, 22:17
ISPRICAVAM SE STOVANIM CITAOCIMA,ALI MORAM I JA NAC VRIJEME ZA,KAKO VI KAZETE - KULIRANJE,NE HVATA SE GOTOVINA SVAKOGA DANA,MORATE RAZUMJETI DA JE I MENI SRCE NA MJESTU!
IDEMO DALJE:

(nastavak)

Kepruner found that all this was covered-up and suppressed in the so-called Western media. None of this was reported in Germany, Austria, the US, UK, or any other Western media. There was a massive propaganda war against the Serbian population and against Serbia. What Kepruner found was that this unprecedented propaganda war, not seen in Europe since Joseph Goebbels and the Nazi Propaganda Ministry, was orchestrated and masterminded not in Zagreb, Tirana, Sarajevo, or Belgrade, but in Bonn, London, Paris, Rome, and Washington, DC. This Nazi-like demonization and racist satanization of all Serbs was the work of the NATO countries. It had its nexus in Washington, DC.

(nastavlja se)

Trpimire
19-12-2005, 01:37
Popusi mi kurcinu, budalo jedna.
:smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16: :smile16:

TRPIMIR
20-12-2005, 05:08
(nastavak)

There was a systematic, organized, and planned disinformation and propaganda campaign organized by the Western countries. This was a time when Communism was collapsing in Europe and the New World Order was emerging. But was this an example of the free and independent media of the “free world”? It was ironic that the Western media techniques were almost identical to the Nazi Gleichschaltung and agitprop techniques of the USSR, totalitarian techniques to win “the hearts and minds” of the masses. Why was the “free world” using totalitarian propaganda and brainwashing and persuasion techniques? This is what Kepruner wanted to know. This is something we all want to know..

(nastavlja se)

Trpimire
20-12-2005, 13:34
Ubit cu te, moje magare, dobilo sidu od tvoje keve. ×××××ne jedan, necu mu vise dozvoliti da ti sevi kevu, zato sto neznas da je operes, ×××××ne jedan. Od sada vodi je u djunglu, da je majmuni seve a tamo ce imati i neoguljenih banana. :smile16:

Jel ti
20-12-2005, 14:23
usraso mozes Trpimiru da popusis a da se ne ugusis?

Nisi me bre ufatio za stamparsku gresku.

Pa da probamo ponovo:

×××× ti mrtav konj krvavim kurcem, tvoju sifilisticnu kurvu mamu po sred picke.
NO?

Citas li ti ovo, BRE?

Hajd sad, ufati me za stamparsku gresku pa da ponovim.

Slusaj ti
20-12-2005, 14:38
MAMLAZE, pusenje je Trpimirovo zanimanje i nemoj da oduzimas njegov posao. Ako si ti Trpimir, u sto ne sumljam, vodi kevu u djuglu i zasuti vec jednom. Tamo ima mnogo banana ne samo za tvoju kevu, vec za sve vas srbocigane. Mars dupetaru.

nepismeno magare
20-12-2005, 20:54
heheheheheeh!

"djuglu" ?!

Sta je majmune, sta je mala Fratrova igracko, jesi li ti Siftar bre?
Neki "Malji Sljadoljed" nastanjen u Hr.?

Hahahahahahahaha! :))

E ×××× te caca tvoj blentavi u sred tog glupog neopranog dupeta .... normalno posle Fratrove obrade posle mise! Prvo Fratar, onda Caca, cilj je isti - tvoje smrdljivo Arijsko Iransko Siftarsko dupe bre! :))

Ciao Agim Sljadoljed! :))

:smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06: :smile06:

Oci
20-12-2005, 22:34
ti iskacu srbociganine. Kako ti je ona keva sa SIDOM? Jebalo je jato magaradi.

cuti bre sljadoljed
20-12-2005, 22:58
Cuti bre Siftar, ako si dobar ima da te unajmim da mi neka drva prepilas ili neku septicku jamu iskopas. Ali samo ako si dobar. Ako nisi - e onda cu da unajmim neku hrvatsku seljacinu nadnicara. :))

:smile06:

Uvijek kazem
21-12-2005, 00:42
Sto magare napravi i tvoja keva rodi, ××××te i dobije ×××××na kao ti. Cigo ide li dobro sa kevom? Dali se je izloecila bre od SIDE? A sad mars u ××××× materinu.

Malji Sljadoled
21-12-2005, 18:56
Malji Slajadoled, sta se bre bunis, nepismen si kao i svaki Sipac, gadjes se padezima kao svaki Sipac, neobrazovan si kao svaki Sipac, pun si mrznje, isto kao svaki Sipac, sta hoces?
Od sada te zovem Malji Sljadoled ili Sipac Fizikaljac, zavisno od potrebe.

Nego Sipac Fizikaljac, hoces li na prolece da mi iskopas jednu Septicku jamu? Ima poslja bre i za tebe i za cacu ti besposlicara, a mamu i seku cu ja da vam zabavljam dok vi kopate. Mogu cak da se njusem tamo-ovamo u ritmu vaseg kopanja, tako da tu postoji neki vid koordinacije pokreta, da to sve lepo izgleda! :smile06:
Sta kazes? Nadnica i topli obrok za vas dvojicu, mami i seki placam u naturi! :smile06:

grjeska
21-12-2005, 18:58
"njisem"
Dakle, "Mogu cak da se njisem tamo-ovamo u ritmu vaseg kopanja, tako da tu postoji neki vid koordinacije pokreta, da to sve lepo izgleda!" :smile06:

TRPIMIR
26-12-2005, 23:05
IDEMO DALJE:



(nastavak)

The book has received favorable reviews but has been ignored in the US and the West. David Binder, a journalist for The New York Times, had this to say about the book from Washington, DC, on August 25, 2002:

Kurt Koepruner's Travels reads like a deep, fascinating and lengthy conversation in a Balkan cafe with a pleasant stranger who has taken great pains to find out what he can about his surroundings. His eyes and ears are wide open and so are his mind and heart. This makes him a wonderful guide through valleys of truths and mountains of lies on a tortuous journey through the four Yugoslav wars of the 1990s. Fittingly he has dedicated his work "standing in for all the victims of the Balkan wars" to four women, a Croat, a Bosnian, an Albanian and a Serb, who helped him understand the many facets of the Yugoslav tragedy.


(nastavlja se)

GO
27-12-2005, 13:09
and ×××× your self Trpikurcer, suck my dick.

Poznati
27-12-2005, 15:23
...je srpski stos, koji su SVI koji su bili u njihovj JNA prosli... u mraku u uzbuni ti nestane kapa, ukrades drugome...drugi trecemu itd... kad dodjete na svjetlo svi imaju kape...nikom ne fali..

Tako se je nekako radilo u Srbiji...ti ukrades jednom, ovaj drugom...itd..ALI najsposobniji se tu obogate, dok slabiji propadnu...

Ta "proizvodnja" je dovela Srbiju na srednjeafricki standard... i sad dozvoljavaju SVAKOM ko se usudi da investira u Srbiju, da zaposli nesto naroda...

...i ja sam eto dosta investirao u Srbiju ove godine ("east capital", "Gustavus capital"), i imao lijepe zarade...do sad ove godine "East Capital" (Balkan fond)68,6% (http://www.eastcapital.se)
te Gustavus Capital 57,62 % (Balkan)
http://www.gustavuscapital.com/web/article.asp?artID=667

To je OK... to ne bi bilo tako dobro da se Srbi nisu malo trznuli... za to im HVALA!! ...ako tako nastave... polako ce odjebatti ratohuskace, mrzitelje ludjake i sve sta ih dovedu tamo gde su sad...

sve koji su krivi sta ih "zadesi" to sta ih "zadesi"...

Lijepo RADITI!!!! U RADU JESPAS! ARBEIT NACT FREI!!

Mr. Svedojeb!
29-12-2005, 02:25
VGSe majmune nepismeni,

"U RADU JESPAS! ARBEIT NACT FREI!!"

U RADU JE SPAS - se kaze i pise! Jedino ako i ovo "JESPAS" nije produkt neke nove alternative Hrvatskog jezika koju su vam ponudili vasi idiotski jezicki znanstvenici!
A ostatak, ovo na Nemackom mozes naci na internetu, normalno da je pogresno napisano, ti nikada nisi ni znao dve sastaviti, ni na Srpskohrvatskom, ni engleskom, ni bilo kom drugom jeziku. :)) A trebao bi da znas ovo na Nemackom, to su vasi IDOLI Hitlerovi Nacisti svojevremeno postavili na Ausvicu. Ako se ti ne secas, pitaj tatu, on zna sigurno! :))

:smile16: :smile16: :smile16:

Znas VSG-u(P)
30-12-2005, 00:58
U RADU JE SPAS" ...to je jako dobro receno! Dok Srbi koji rade u tim poduzecima kojeä proizode nesto konkurentno za zapad mogli raditi duplo vise od "zapadnjaka" za 180 € placu, meni ce lovica lijepo kapati - po 50-70 % na ulozen kapital... a TO se racuna! zato kazem:

"ARBEIT MACHT FREI" - inace to je pisalo na ulazu svakom od nazi logora, kao i u "sajmistu", #Banjici" "Jasenovcu", "Dachau", "Auswietzu" itd...

Nemoj
30-12-2005, 10:48
da mi tu prodajes muda pod bubrege!

Cega se pametn stide
30-12-2005, 13:52
×××××× se ponose.
VGS citira fasisticku parolu od koje se celom svetu (sem u ×××××tskoj) dize kosa na glavi.

VGS, je li to tvoja najzesca faza ludila?
Sta je, nestalo PLIVE???

Posle svega sta smo otkrili, nikoga ne iznenadjuje vise sto si takav, jer biti sam samcijat bez kuceta i maceta, morao si da puknes sa zivcima, ×××× ga.

Da te pitam, jel ti izidjes nekad u bioskop, pozoriste, da li odes na neki koncert, drugim recima, da li tvoj usrani zivot vredi vise od feninga imajuci na umu da ti je besomucno lepnjenje clanaka i sirenje mrznje gotovo fulltime job???

Vidim lepis presude nekim "skorpijonima".
Koga boli ××××× za jednog skrpijona sto je dobio 15 godina??? Ja bi mu dao 20. Cinio zlocine, pa neka ispasta.

Kada bi ti tako rezonovao, umesto sto besomucno i uporno branis najokorelije zlikavce iz svog naroda i sto umanjujes njihove zlocine, mi vise ne bi imali koga ovde zajebavati, i svi bi se povukli, a forum bi opusteo i ugasio se.

Kakav "ARBEIT MACHT FREI", ××××××tino jedna bez trunke mozga.

UBIJ SE!

Joj
30-12-2005, 14:17
budalo jedna, dali ti imas zivot, osim ovoga tu na VIDI-SELU?
Dosao si i BOGU na vrh kurca, majmune ciganski.
Dali ti izadjes u "bioskop" ili da pomirises ×××××, glupi cigo?
Sto ti jedes za obroke? MOzda hrvatska govna? Zato i visis tu da bi pojeo malo dobrih hrvatskih govana.
Daj gedjo glupi, pogledaj se u ogledalo i reci nam sto vidis, osim majmuna?
Dobar tek sa hrvatskim govnima, pateticni vlaski ciganine

Pa gde tebe
30-12-2005, 22:20
da jedem budalo, nisam ja kanibal. Ja tebe mogu samo da ××××× ovako sitno laludjerski. :) :) :)

A i nije mi neki gust - tesko budalo jebati koji ti se sam natrci.

"LAQLUGERSKI"
31-12-2005, 01:19
××××te, pa ti si zbilja ××××××, koja nema ili nezna ista raditi, jedino visjeti tu i jesti hrvatska govna.
Dobar tek, ciganine mali i nemoj zaboraviti da odneses malo kuci za calu i kevu jebanu, smrdljivi vlajo.
Mars u ××××× materinu.

za Trpimira
01-02-2006, 00:44
Trpimire, kao tvoj verni citaoc, zahtevam da nastavis ovu temu. Zasto si je zapostavio?
Pozdrav. :)

TRPIMIR (gost)
26-03-2006, 16:43
EVO IDEMO DALJE:



(nastavak)

Kepruner is not a tenured professor or journalist or politician. Thus, he has no stake in the conflict. He does not have to delude himself with rationalizations and ex post facto justifications. He can tell it like he sees it. And he does that. He doesn’t have axes to grind or agendas to advance. He is not pushing or selling the New World Order. Indeed, he is not selling anything. He does not have a pet Balkans people that he makes his own. He is not espousing a Greater Albania, a Greater Croatia, or a Greater Bosnia. He is not engaged in the policy of divide and conquer. He knows the former Yugoslavia was made of many different peoples and many different cultures and religions and languages. He implicitly knows that there are no “evil” or “good” people in the former Yugoslavia. Each group has its own interests that it wants to protect. He sees through all the hyperbole and platitudes. In short, his account is balanced, sane, and unbiased. Naturally, it is unpopular and is dismissed in the US and the West. It has been translated into Serbian and Japanese from the original German but remains un-translated into English.


(nastavlja se)

Trpimire
26-03-2006, 19:34
Pusi kurcinu, budalo vlaska. :o